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Hi Bri,
Thanks for checking in with us. I get the sense you’re feeling just as exhausted and hopeless as ever, and are tired of running into dead ends when you try to get help from those around you. I imagine it’s extremely disheartening to still feel like nothing’s changed, and that you’ve tightened up your armour to hide your pain from those that make it worse instead of better for you.
I know we’re probably starting to sound a bit like a broken record, but as it’s been a few weeks since we last spoke I’m wondering where your thoughts of suicide are at these days?
Glad to hear from you, as always
The Support TeamYouthspaceModeratorHi Angelic,
Welcome to the Forum! Thank you for sharing your story and also for your gratitude and appreciation for our existence .
I get the sense that you really want someone to just listen to your experience without them pushing their opinion or judgement. I can imagine how frustrating it is for you to want to vent to others and have them immediately tell you how you “should” live your life. It seems like the type of support you are looking for is the kind that will listen, accept you as you are, and empower you to make the best decision for yourself. We are here for that.
I can hear that your heart is really conflicted right now. The connection you and your boyfriend has is unlike anything you’ve had before. It seems that sometimes you feel jealous and insecure and as much as you try to hold it inside, it somehow manages to escape, even without your permission. I get the sense that your boyfriend’s comments about other girls makes you feel a little better in the moment, but doesn’t answer your uncertainty. I can imagine that you are questioning the way your boyfriend talks about women in general, and how he feels about you specifically. Is that right?
I can hear that you are really grateful for your boyfriend, and the love he gives you. I know he is an important part of your life. I’m wondering what you love and cherish about this relationship?
I really appreciate you sharing yourself and your story here. Feel free to use our Chat service also if you are in Canada.
The Support Team
YouthspaceModeratorHi Nie,
It’s awful to lose someone who we care about from our life… It sounds like you’re really hurt by the way your friend has been ignoring you after you apologized to her. I imagine you were making yourself vulnerable by giving your apology, and it’s painful to have no answer to it. You say that you have given up, and I’m guessing that giving up feels necessary put distance between yourself and others so that they can’t hurt you like this. From the title of your post, it sounds like this isn’t the first person you have felt abandoned by, and that you’re pretty sick of it.
How’ve you been coping with the feelings around your best friend, Nie? Have things changed for you?
We’re here to listen if you want to talk more about it.
The Support TeamYouthspaceModeratorHello Anonymous 13,
I want to thank you for having the strength to share your story and to look for help. I can only begin to imagine the emotional pain that you have experienced both in the last year with the traumatic loss of your best friend, and now with her presence in your night terrors. It sounds incredibly agonizing.
I can hear how those moments from last year are still so alive in your memory — so vivid. And the pain that you felt then is still so vivid as well. I’m so sorry for your loss. I can see that your friend was hugely important to you, and that losing her was intolerable to the point where you harmed yourself in order to overwhelm the pain that threatened to overwhelm you.
The night terrors you describe are terrifying. The sadness of having to experience over and over these moments of being with her and then losing her, watching her fall and then waking up to find her looking as she did after her accident…it sounds like the most frightening and crushing feeling. I can see why you are losing sleep because of it — I would imagine that there are times when you fear sleep because of the thought of being paralyzed with these images of her that are so raw, and so real seeming.
My heart cries for your pain. You say that you don’t know if there is a counsellor in existence that could help, and I’m curious if you have tried to seek out professional help before? Is there anything that has helped you to cope with some of the stress and anxiety that is coming up for you as a result of the trauma and these night terrors?
We are very much here for you. Stay strong.
The Support TeamMarch 3, 2014 at 4:13 am in reply to: like they say ” you and your pet become the same person” #19111YouthspaceModeratorWow Nie,
It’s quite something how connected you and your dog are — and that you are there for him, and he is there for you. It’s huge to have someone in your life you can rely on as support (even if they have 4 legs ). It’s good to hear that he’s feeling better.
I can hear though, that your pain is enduring, Nie. It sounds like it’s hard to tell what the future will bring, and that you feel very precarious, and that you don’t know how much you might want to end your life from moment to moment. That seems like a bleak and scary place to be. Is there anyone you could reach out to if you did start to feel very suicidal? We’re always here for you, but I know that responses can take a few days on the forum, and I’m wondering what you might be able to do if those feelings come on really strong all of a sudden?
Stay strong.
The Support TeamYouthspaceModeratorHey Nie,
I get the sense there are a few bright patches in what continues to be for the most part an overwhelming darkness. I’m glad to hear you’re open to exploring new ways to cope, I wonder if you’ve had a chance to check out those websites we listed and if so what you think of them? (You’re allowed to tell us you don’t want to check them out, too, no pressure)
I would imagine it’s hurtful for you to know your parents are preparing for your death with insurance while travelling, as though they are boiling your life struggles down to a financial matter. I am guessing it leaves you feeling very misunderstood that they miss the mark on what really matters to you, and what you really need them to support you with.
I’m glad you keep talking through things with us, Nie.
The Support Team
February 26, 2014 at 7:11 pm in reply to: like they say ” you and your pet become the same person” #19107YouthspaceModeratorNie,
It sounds like this unbearable pain is weighting too strongly on you and your dog. I am imagining that the thoughts of suicide and strong need for this pain to end bring you and your dog closer. Maybe you two are there for each other in a way that no one else is understanding right now…How have you been able to keep yourself safe from these desires to die?
I see incredible strength from deep inside you Nie, something that still holds onto the spark of life. Can you tell me more about how you and your dog can support each other through this dark time?
Sending support to both of you,
The Support TeamYouthspaceModeratorHey Emma,
I can hear how frustrating and exhausting it is for you to fight this battle for so long. Some days are better and other days are worse. I am glad that you get to see some relief from time to time. I can imagine that you feel a sense of serenity and freedom in those moments.
It seems like in the summer and certain other times, you are not as troubled by it and find a way to not do it. I’m curious if there is anything that makes those times different from the other times, when it is at its worst?
Sending lots of love and strength,
The Support Team
YouthspaceModeratorNie,
Thanks for being honest with us. I really appreciate that you are letting us know exactly how you’re feeling about things. Seriously.
I know that it’s not as simple as either wanting to lose bulimia from your life or not. I can hear how it has been something that has given you a sense of control, and also been important to you as you search for a way to feel okay about your body. I understand that the thought of having this control taken away makes you feel very anxious and uncomfortable. I can respect that. It also seems, though, that there are moments when you feel like you are trapped in the cycle that bulimia creates, and that you’re tired of the constant thoughts that seem to come along with it. It sounds like many of those thoughts take you down a rabbit-hole of self-loathing, Nie. I get the sense (correct me if I’m wrong) that sometimes you want to escape what you called this “vicious cycle”.
I wish that I had the answer, of what would help you avoid those suicidal thoughts. But ultimately I believe that you are the only person who knows what you need to stay safe. You spoke about snowboarding and how alive it made you feel — is there anything else that helps create some light in the darkness for you?
We have lots of resources (like lookingglassbc.com and proud2bme.org) around disordered eating and some valuable distractions or coping skills lists too if those interest you…
Here for you,
The Support TeamYouthspaceModeratorHey Pro,
Humans are very strange things indeed. If you ever truly figure them out, please let us know, okay? Because I know how it is to look at your own behaviour and find that you can’t make heads or tails of it.
And it sounds like you’re continuing to wonder at yourself, not only “why did I do that?” but also “I just know I’m going to do that again”. I can hear that part of your frustration comes from seeing that you’re likely to put things off again and again, in the same way that you have before. What you said at the end of your message made it sound like you’re running on a treadmill, trying to deal with your anger at yourself from things that you have let slide in the past, all the while fighting to keep from falling off of the stuff that is still coming at you.
I can imagine that the exam tomorrow might be pressing down on you pretty heavily today…because it sounds like even though you know it’s worth a lot of your grade, you’ve been simply unable to make yourself care about it, even though you want to. It sounds like your mind is running around in circles trying to sort itself out, as the minutes pass by that you could be using to study. I can imagine how aggravating that is. Know that we’re here if you want to talk about how the studying and exam go for you.
It’s great that you have dance to keep you sane — dancing can be a very feel-good thing to do, and I can tell that it’s important to you.
-The Support Team
February 24, 2014 at 2:47 am in reply to: like they say ” you and your pet become the same person” #19097YouthspaceModeratorHi Nie,
I can really hear how connected you feel to your dog and how much empathy you have for the pain he was feeling from eating such spicy food. It sounds like you were really able to identify with his desire to escape that pain — I’m guessing that’s how you sometimes feel when life gets really tough for you.
I want to remind you Nie that if things get really bad for you then you can reach out for help by dialing 911 or a crisis line. We are also here every night 6-11pm PST (and until midnight Fridays and Saturdays) if you want some more immediate support for us.
We are here to listen to you Nie and to support you in the darkness you’re fighting through for as long as you need us.
The Support Team
YouthspaceModeratorHi Emma,
Thank you for taking the time to share your story with us here. I can hear how long you’ve been struggling with this issue — it sounds as though it’s both painful and embarrassing for you and I’d imagine that only adds to the frustration in being unable to stop. It sounds as though you have a birthday coming up that is really causing you to reflect on how long this problem has been with you.
I wonder if there has been a time since you were 6 or 7 where you were able to stop or where the urge wasn’t so great? Are there times now when things feel calmer for you?
We are here to support you in your journey Emma — and we also have a live chat service nightly 6-11pm PST (and until midnight on Fridays and Saturdays) if you ever want to chat and get a more immediate response.
The Support Team
YouthspaceModeratorHi Nie,
It really sounds as though the last few days have been a breath of fresh air for you after such a heavy time. I can hear that you’re unsure of how to return to your life and the pressures it brings you.
I wonder if you had an opportunity to think about the questions we posed to you in our last response Nie? We want to support you any way that we can and I want to reiterate our offer to share with you some resources for coping if you need them. We are here to listen in the good times as well as the tough ones.
The Support Team
YouthspaceModeratorHello Proprocrastinator.
It sounds like your wheels feel like they are spinning, and you needed a place to let some of it out. Welcome to youthspace — I’m glad you came to share your thoughts.
I’ve never heard of the idea of cowpaths before, but I can see why it’s such a compelling metaphor for the way that we sometimes live our lives. From what I can gather, you’re feeling somewhat like you’re stuck in a cowpath yourself… but you’re a smart enough cow to see the path, and realize that you could walk over where the tree used to be…and that part of what’s frustrating you is your inability to do so, even though you see it for what it is? I would imagine you feel trapped by the paths that you see but cannot break out of…
Frustration seems to be a theme in your writing here – and I can hear that you are very angry with yourself for not being able to grab control of the parts of your life that you feel are spiraling. Even more than that, there seems to be nervousness in your words that things are getting much worse than they normally are, and that perhaps they’re starting to escape your control. You’re looking at yourself, and seeing that things that would usually motivate you (like having a girl over) don’t have as much power as they normally do, and it sounds like it generally has you wondering if something bigger than the cowpath phenomenon is causing you to fall back into habits that you don’t like to see yourself in?
You talk about loving the idea and theory of organizing your life, but feeling paralyzed when you actually try to make those thoughts into realities….which feeds into the feelings of irritation. Have there been moments in the past where you were able to beat that paralysis?
I’m worried for you Proprocrastinator, being stuck in this paralysis. I know you’re waiting to talk to a therapist but if you want to explore other resources and options we can work with you on that.
We are here to listen and talk if you want to keep sharing your reflections on your experiences. If you’re in Canada, you can also try out the live chat between 6 and 11pm PST (or 6pm-midnight on Friday and Saturday).
-The Support Team
YouthspaceModeratorHey Nie,
I can really hear how much you are looking forward to your time away from the pressure of monitored eating. It seems like the anticipation of feeling in control again is getting you through the week and lessening your desire to end your life. I can imagine how happy you must feel to have something immediate to be excited about.
I get the sense that this trip feels like a well deserved break that will bring some temporary relief from your suffering and allow you to regain that control of at least one aspect of your life. I’m pretty worried though to imagine you engaging in your habits of disordered eating for three full days. While your excitement for this trip is currently keeping you alive, I’m wondering how you can stay alive when you return to purging?
As I’m sure you know, bulimia can cause longterm health complications, so my concern is for your body now and in the future. Do you know when/where to draw the line? How do you stay safe?
Let us know if you want to explore other options to cope. There are some incredible resources in our world and we want to support you in feeling this level of control in your life. You are worth fighting for Nie.
Thank you for your courage in being so open with us.
Sending warm wishes for your ski trip,
The Support Team -
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